# ChatLLM vs ThoughtLoop

The clearest difference is iOS requirement: ThoughtLoop at 15.1 against ChatLLM's 17.0. On price, ads, in-app purchases and device support there is nothing between them.

Both are free to download. ChatLLM sells 3 in-app purchases, starting at $9.99 per month and ThoughtLoop sells 2 in-app purchases, starting at $4.99 per month. Whichever you choose, the download price is not the number that matters.

## The numbers

| Metric | ChatLLM | ThoughtLoop |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Price | Free | Free |
| Rating | **[4.9 (3.7K ratings)](https://appshunter.io/ios/app/chatllm-ai-chat-bot-and-agent/id6502844681/reviews)** | — |
| Number of ratings | **3.7K** | — |
| Positive reviews | 63.7% of reviews | — |
| In-app purchases | Yes | Yes |
| Ads | No | No |
| Update frequency | Every 5 days | — |
| Monetization | Subscription | — |
| Size | 112 MB | 39 MB |
| Requires iOS | 17.0 | **15.1** |
| Devices | iPhone, iPad | **iPhone, iPad, iPod** |
| Age rating | 12+ | 4+ |
| Developer | [Abacus.AI](https://appshunter.io/developer/1747006654) | [Charlie Crump](https://appshunter.io/developer/6771888833) |

## What reviewers say

### ChatLLM

[App page](https://appshunter.io/ios/app/chatllm-ai-chat-bot-and-agent/id6502844681)

Access multiple advanced AI models for chat, content creation, and task automation. Features include an autonomous AI agent, real-time meeting transcription, and voice interaction. Generate images, videos, and code, or analyze documents with this comprehensive AI assistant.

**Highlights:** Autonomous AI agent for complex tasks, Real-time meeting transcription and insights, Multi-model AI chat (GPT-5, Opus, Gemini), Image and video generation, Voice chat with multiple AI voices, AI-powered web research, Code execution and debugging

**Features:** Safari Extension

**In-app purchases (3)**

| Purchase | Price | Billing |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Monthly Subscription | $9.99 | per month |
| Monthly subscription | $9.99 | per month |
| Pro Tier | $19.99 | per month |

**What reviewers like**

- 💰 Cheap and powerful
- 🔥 Amazing best on the market by far
- 🔥 Abacus ai - Absolutely fabulous tool great work horse, The best value on the market
- 🔥 The best of AI capabilities into a single, seamless platform!
- 🔥 Super impressive app

**What reviewers complain about**

- 🚫 No account creation
- 📏 Can't adjust font size
- 🚫 Doesn't show routing. Doesn't transcribe audio
- 🐛 Voice chat is not transcribing. I need it. Sometimes I can reenter the thread and it will be there, and then vanish!
- 🚫 Function but ugly and missing clean ui/ux design

**Reported bugs**

- Voice chat is not transcribing
- Chats disappearing after re-entering the thread
- App freezing or becoming laggy when generating responses on mobile
- Voice chat not working
- App crashing on mobile

**Requested features**

- Add transcript to the headphone mode
- Rename a thread
- Add execution time and other metrics for each request
- Indicate which LLM served the request when using routeLLM
- Add an iPad version


### ThoughtLoop

[App page](https://appshunter.io/ios/app/thoughtloop/id6771888831)

**Features:** macOS Compatibility, Vision Pro support

**In-app purchases (2)**

| Purchase | Price | Billing |
| --- | --- | --- |
| ThoughtLoop Pro monthly | $4.99 | per month |
| ThoughtLoop Pro Annual | $49.99 | per year |


## Frequently asked questions

### Is ChatLLM free?

ChatLLM is free to download, with in-app purchases available.

### Is ThoughtLoop free?

ThoughtLoop is free to download, with in-app purchases available.

### Do ChatLLM or ThoughtLoop have ads?

Neither ChatLLM nor ThoughtLoop shows ads.

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*Compared by [AppsHunter](https://appshunter.io/) from daily US App Store data. Review summaries are generated from verbatim App Store reviews.*