Please don't listen to Shellenberger or Oliver Stone or any engineer-type who curiously do not obey or ignore the universal, foundational laws of thermodynamics...exposed vets wwII and beyond...Micronesians,New Mexicans and Australian aborigines and the "dome"on Guam& Fukushima waste releases in the Pacific & endless accidents and countless near-accidents on-site & during transportation of materials and nuclear misses,in US & globally. & uranium extraction,mining,processing,storing for thousands of years...and the unsustainable costs to build & maintain...otherwise, ya'll are spot on politics...just brush up on cracker plants that commodify frack-waste & use it for single use plastic made for convenience only. Lots of biodegradable products that dissolve are already in use(although,compostable dinner & flatware are NOT yard compostable,, need hi-temp incineration if BP I certified)
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