Bad bidding
Could never make a bid!
What do the ratings mean?
Great game. I play it just about every night. One thing I can’t figure out - what do the ratings mean? I just came back from -490 to win, and got an “S”? What does that stand for? Or I’ll take 10 tricks (“slam”), then win a misare for 500 points in 2 hands and get a “B”?… 😅
Letter Grade Stupid
Game is okay playing partners for an app anyway. Way too may unbidable hands. It’s like the randomization that substitutes for a shuffle is too good. Played thousands of games over the last 60 years and I’ve never had a game where ten hands delt with no biddable cards.
This letter grade business incredibly annoying and 100% unnecessary. For a game I had to pay for…it could be a lot better.
This letter grade business incredibly annoying and 100% unnecessary. For a game I had to pay for…it could be a lot better.
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Sus dealing
Admittedly the sample size is small, I’ve only played around 25 hands so far.
But of those 25 hands I’ve only had about 3 worth even thinking about bidding on, normally I get hand that has a few of each suit but not a lot of any one of them. Meanwhile 80% of the time the AI bids 7 or 8 wins and easily gets them because they have 8 or 9 of a single suit and another ace or two for good measure.
I hope I can come back and change this and it really just is the small sample size because this is no fun.
Edit: I think I originally wrote this years ago. I still play the game from time to time in order to pass the time, but overall I think my review up top is pretty accurate. The sample size is now a few hundred, so still not massive but more than most people will play the game I reckon. 90% of the time I’m dealt 2 cards in 2 suits and 3 cards in the other 2. It’s incredibly rare to get a hand worth bidding on. Every deal seems to be perfectly average for the player. However, the ai seems to end up with 7+ cards in the same suit AT LEAST every second round. At least this is your partner as often as your 2 opponents. But it leaves me playing very passively. On the other hand, sometimes your partner will make a bid and it matches what’s in your own hand so you might overbid them, especially if the cpu made a larger bid in between. You’re just as likely to find out the opponent players actually held more of the suit than your partner made a bid for, setting you up for massive failure. I got baited into this after being forced to pass about 20 hands in a row.
So yea, not a bad way to waste 30 mins whilst on a train or something, especially if you don’t play too often. But the dealing is incredibly suspicious and stacked against the player and you quickly start realising the games shortcomings the more you play.
But of those 25 hands I’ve only had about 3 worth even thinking about bidding on, normally I get hand that has a few of each suit but not a lot of any one of them. Meanwhile 80% of the time the AI bids 7 or 8 wins and easily gets them because they have 8 or 9 of a single suit and another ace or two for good measure.
I hope I can come back and change this and it really just is the small sample size because this is no fun.
Edit: I think I originally wrote this years ago. I still play the game from time to time in order to pass the time, but overall I think my review up top is pretty accurate. The sample size is now a few hundred, so still not massive but more than most people will play the game I reckon. 90% of the time I’m dealt 2 cards in 2 suits and 3 cards in the other 2. It’s incredibly rare to get a hand worth bidding on. Every deal seems to be perfectly average for the player. However, the ai seems to end up with 7+ cards in the same suit AT LEAST every second round. At least this is your partner as often as your 2 opponents. But it leaves me playing very passively. On the other hand, sometimes your partner will make a bid and it matches what’s in your own hand so you might overbid them, especially if the cpu made a larger bid in between. You’re just as likely to find out the opponent players actually held more of the suit than your partner made a bid for, setting you up for massive failure. I got baited into this after being forced to pass about 20 hands in a row.
So yea, not a bad way to waste 30 mins whilst on a train or something, especially if you don’t play too often. But the dealing is incredibly suspicious and stacked against the player and you quickly start realising the games shortcomings the more you play.
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Repetitive game play
Clunky app. Personalised rule changes don’t even get applied to the game. After several games, the algorithm became extremely predictable and completely frustrating. Lame. Would love a refund.
Not a real good 500 player
You never lead the joker first when you make it no trumps, you save it so you can get back in the game. You never play top card when your partner leads, when you have smaller trumps, it makes your partner think you have no more trumps. You also don’t call 7 of the same trump when the opponent before you calls 6, it’s quite obvious the person who developed this app a very poor 500player. Please tweak this game to make it better. Also once opponents are out of trumps, play your suit instead of playing trumps and robbing your partner of all his trumps, but appears you haven’t tried to correct anything so don’t see anything happening to make it better. When your partner has the trick, and you are the last player never take it when you have a smaller trump in your hand absolutely has no idea how to play 500. Fix it. Whoever done this App doesn’t know a thing about 500 why would you play the right bower on the Joker when you have a smaller trump in your hand. Your partner doesn’t take your trick with the joker after player one card in no trumps is played as you usually have a run down in one suit and cannot get back in. Please fix these mistakes I could scream poor poor player. Stop draining your partner for trumps when opposition has no trumps left use your suit, even if not good your partner may not have that suit and take it with a trump, sorry mate you haven’t played much 500. You don’t make 8 when you are only holding 5 trumps, you know nothing about this game your hopeless, and the people on here saying what a great game never played tournament 500. I give you1 out of 10.
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Predictable
I can always tell what suit others are going to bid in when I have only one card in an entire suit.
Happens more time than not.
Happens more time than not.
Cross ruff
Pretty good game but could use some improvements in partner bidding and play in the 4 player game. Get him to stop pulling trump as soon as the opponents are out, then play winners in other suits down to a loser in a suit other than trump. The opponents play against misere bids needs improvements. I win about 90% of games, should be more challenging.
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Whilst I really enjoyed the game I found on my iPhone I couldn’t shut it off which was really frustrating. Also on the iPhone some of the cards are hidden by the black cut out in the iPhone 13. I literally had to turn my phone off to get out of this app.
Good, but…..
Won’t let me change type of 500
Vjsggeez
Vjsggeez
Do not buy this!
Doesn’t fit screen, old graphics. Hard to see cards, can only play in landscape. Terrible for the price compared to other free versions
Better than most but extremely glitchy
I don’t know who wrote this program but they obviously have no understanding of how to play it. All my comments are with me playing the computer only. The programmer has no comprehension as to how to make bids. For example we may only need 10-30 points and the opponent is way behind, and they both have passed, so logically you would at most make a 6 bid to win the game. But not this programmer he has my so called partner bid 8 and then really didn’t have the cards to bid even 6. Then as previously stated in a review my partner will play a card that the hand is already mine and then cause us to be set. It is very frustrating playing this game with the programmers total lack of understanding on how to play cards!!! I would recommend this game only if you are going to play online and then that brings another total set in illogical programming idiotic things.
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Moving and pick pile
I am still unhappy I cannot move my cards around before I bid. I like to put my cards in the order I want to see them to bid. The only time you can move cards is if you take the bid. I have not played the actual card game with friends for quite a while. Rather than 3 cards to change when you get the bid, I thought it was 5. Hope you can change these things because I love playing the game. I like the new changes you have made to show bids on the table.
Why doesn’t your player give you 3 of her cards when Nelly or misere is bid? That is what happens in the real game
Why doesn’t your player give you 3 of her cards when Nelly or misere is bid? That is what happens in the real game
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Response from developer
Hi, Thanks for the feedback. Currently when it is your turn during play, you are able to drag the cards and reorder them to which ever order you wish. However I will enable dragging to sort at time of bid as well in a future update, which should hopefully solve your problem. Please feel free to contact me at apps@jamesswiney.com with any other questions you have. Thanks for playing James
Bidding
I want to know why if someone bids 8 spades for 240 points, and I bid no tricks for 250 points it gives the bid to the 8 spades bid even though no tricks is a higher bid.
Thanks
PM
Thanks
PM
Solid game with errors
While there are issues (original scoring is wrong, misere bid by opponents locks game after first hand, etc.), it’s still an enjoyable version of the game.
Partner doesn’t play to win
The computer partner does not play to win. I can not figure out why it plays the cards it does at times. For example the other team leads with a joker, computer partner plays the right bower. The opponent then plays the left bower and the computer partner plays a queen of trump. We could have won a trick if played the other way around. Seems like doesn’t play lowest card if can’t take the trick.
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Extreme 500 , game flaws
Please fix the app so the partner does not come back immediately with a joker when playing a no thump hand. Very annoying to bid no trump and have a hand full of a suit and then have the partner put a joker on it taking the trick. There is no way to get back into the bidder’s hand when this is done.
PLEASE FIX THIS FLAW!
Thank you
PLEASE FIX THIS FLAW!
Thank you
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Couple of basic fixes would make it amazing!
Great game. Have noticed a few bugs in the ‘partners’ game play though:
1. They bid more tricks then is needed to win the game - if we only need 6 spades to win (and no-one else calls), why does the partner often call 7 or even 8 (which he almost always loses!).
2. The partner doesn’t seem to recognise the Jack’s as being bowers when he doesn’t have the lead / call. He plays them below the queen - this is frustrating when he could win a trick by playing the Jack, but plays a queen or king instead (losing the hand…).
I often play multiple games without the partner making a call at all. Any way of setting the partners risk level / appetite would be awesome too.
These are minor points, this is an awesome game. Thanks!
1. They bid more tricks then is needed to win the game - if we only need 6 spades to win (and no-one else calls), why does the partner often call 7 or even 8 (which he almost always loses!).
2. The partner doesn’t seem to recognise the Jack’s as being bowers when he doesn’t have the lead / call. He plays them below the queen - this is frustrating when he could win a trick by playing the Jack, but plays a queen or king instead (losing the hand…).
I often play multiple games without the partner making a call at all. Any way of setting the partners risk level / appetite would be awesome too.
These are minor points, this is an awesome game. Thanks!
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Questions
Are there any real people that play against each other. All I’m seeing is a computer partners on both sides. The computer takes all the good cards and leaves crappy ones for me like almost every hand. That’s not right. I paid money for this game. It’s not even a challenge if computer going to win all the time
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Play is ok but with bugs
1. Option that requires winning contract to win game doesn’t seem to work. I won my bid but the opponent reached 500 in points and was declared the winner.
2. Winning Misere does not credit me with an achievement.
3. Would like to see score persist on all screens. When I have the bid window there’s no indication of current score.
4. Would love to see win/loss record and other stats.
2. Winning Misere does not credit me with an achievement.
3. Would like to see score persist on all screens. When I have the bid window there’s no indication of current score.
4. Would love to see win/loss record and other stats.
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