Dealing is not fair
Response from developer
The deck is shuffled randomly before each deal using a built-in Apple Swift shuffle function. Cards are dealt off the top. All you are seeing is random chance. For more on this, see “Gambler’s Fallacy”. You can also look up IOS Swift Shuffle function for a technical explanation of the algorithm it uses. Admittedly, moving cards manually takes some "dexterity". I have released an updated version, 4.8.0, which should make this easier.
It is nice, but . . .
Response from developer
Thank you for reporting this. I have released an updated version, 4.8.0, which hopefully eliminates this behavior.
Missing tiles
17 pro
4.7.0
iOS 26.5.1
HARD TO USE
Hard to win against computer players
What I really dislike is it’s hard to win, seems like the computer players are always getting dealt good hands where they can go out almost immediately and you are stuck with a handful of high cards. One game in the 8th or 9th round, one of the AI players only had 3 points, very hard to believe.
Response from developer
The deck is shuffled randomly before each deal and cards are dealt off the top. All you are seeing is random chance. For more on this, see “Gambler’s Fallacy”.
Fun!
Rigged
Not random
Response from developer
While I can't show you my programming code, I stand on my guarantee the cards are dealt and handled randomly. It would be much more difficult to rig the programming as you suggest, and to what purpose? Believing that past results (only scoring 0-3 points in a round) affect future events is very common, but nevertheless erroneous. Look up "Gambler's Fallacy" for more on this.
Good but better with a few changes.
Response from developer
Thank you for the suggestion. I will consider it for a future update. My feeling is that there should be a penalty for holding an un-melded wild card at the end of a round. It's rarely an issue after the first round, but adds a little intrigue as to whether or not to give it to Opp. Left.
The AI needs improving
Fix problem
Love the game but....
On my skills but one problem.... after the 6th round can't see all my cards . I even tried putting it longs ways but won't turn
the app does what it says!
this app is great for new players trying to understand the rules as well as seasoned players who cant find anyone to play with and NEED to scratch the 3-13 itch ;p
i do have to say that playing in real life is a lot better though, the playful banter, the trash talk, the pleading to not go out till the next round ("meld" in this app). Most importantly, you cant take risks with the NPC's. they are all optimized to try to win, which isnt bad at all i just prefer playing with humans because of this!! this app goes fast, and you cant take risks for later you just have to try to get the least amount of points as quickly as you can- which is the goal of the game, but in real life every human player will also be taking risks and calculating and making mistakes and thats part of the fun/charm! this is the reason so many comments say its rigged- its not rigged, NPC's are just better at the game than any human opponents ever will be ;p
one thing thats odd to me is the lack of jokers, ive always played 3-13 with the 4 jokers as extra wild cards. imo, the more wild cards the more fun it is!
it can also be frustrating to look at your hand sometimes, as your hand tries to be the most optimal options for you- which is good for new players but i have a system, so that was quite confusing.
3-13 is my FAVORITE game ever. I love getting my friends and family to play with me, and if you're reading this, i recommend that you grab two decks, shuffle them together, and get some people together for a game session! unless youve never played before.. then maybe give this app a couple tries first:)
Response from developer
I'm glad you are enjoying the app, and appreciate your acknowledgment it is NOT rigged. Just wanted to point out that you CAN add 2 or 4 Jokers to the game as additional wild cards. Tap the Settings icon (gear-shaped object in the upper right corner) and select from the option list. You can also choose to make your melds manually by drag and drop of cards. I share your preference for playing live with family or friends, although do enjoy the convenience of not juggling 13 cards in my hand in the last round!
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Good game but….
Drops out
Online opponents
Decent Game - some feedback
- better handling of card organization and movement. It’s a bit troublesome to have to long-press to drag and drop cards. Also, there is no indicator (eg: a cursor) to show you where the selected card will be dropped.
- it would be easier if you could slide a card up to discard rather than having to drag it all the way to the right. Or if you could simply tap to select, then tap discard.
- it seems that in every game, there is always one Opp. (Computer player) who is doing drastically better than the others. It’s randomized, but without fail one of the CPU players will be having a much lower score. I get that this might be to add challenge and variety, but it should be less noticeable. Makes me wonder if the game is truly randomized and fair
- sometimes the game will inexplicably crash. No pop up or explanation, just a force close. Upon reopening the app, the game I was in is gone. It’s a bummer when this happens. I am on iPhone 11 btw
Response from developer
Thank you for this insightful and fair review. - My programming skills are very basic, and have impacted card organization, movement, and discarding in the manual play version. I am using the native Apple interface for drag and drop, and agree it takes some patience and dexterity. Perhaps it is more suitable for iPad. - Dragging to far right for discarding was chosen out of concern that slide or tap gestures could inadvertently be triggered during drag and drop, resulting in the wrong card being discarded. - I can only assure you the deck is randomly shuffled before each deal, and the AI players do not "peek" at any cards. I see no point in "rigging" the game, and besides the programming would be much more cumbersome. - The inexplicable crashes started with version 4.0, released in July 2024, and are most frustrating. It has not crashed on any of my devices, and my friend has played 100's of games on an iPhone 11 without any crashes. But I can see in Apple logs that it does occasionally crash, however not from any lines in the program code but rather it seems the IOS environment. I would very much like to fix this, and it remains a work in progress until I can find how to reproduce it on my test simulator.
Great game
I would be great if it could be played with remote players! I’d pay for that!
Thanks for a great pass time!
Response from developer
I'm glad you are enjoying the app. 3-13 is also the favorite card game of my family.
