CloudVeil Messenger vs Graf Chat
Price, ratings, monetisation and update history for both apps, side by side — with what reviewers say about each.
CloudVeil Messenger
A secure and simplified messaging application designed for users who prioritize privacy and a distraction-free experience. It offers core messaging functionalities while disabling features like inline bots, in-app browsers, and global search to enhance safety.
- Fully compatible with Telegram
- Blocked inline bots
- Disabled in-app browser
- Disabled autoplay GIFs
- Disabled global search
- Allowed groups
- Organizational channels available
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CloudVeil Messenger is a customized Telegram messaging app that is fully compatible with other Telegram apps. It’s very similar to Telegram with these key differences. - Inline-Bots (gif and video search etc): Blocked - In-App Browser: Disabled - Autoplay GIFs: Disabled - Global User, Group, and Channel Search: Disabled - Bots: Disabled - Organizational Channels: Available upon request - Other Channels: Blocked - Groups: Allowed, bad groups can be blocked upon request. As you can see, CloudVeil Messenger is perfect for users desiring a safe, simple, messaging app. Use Screen Time to block access to unwanted websites, browsers, and social networking apps.
Graf Chat
A secure messaging app prioritizing privacy with end-to-end encryption and no phone number requirement. It offers biometric app lock and screenshot protection, with tools to block and report abuse.
- End-to-end encrypted chats
- No phone number required for sign-up
- Biometric app lock
- Screenshot protection
- Block and report tools
- Interoperable with Matrix homeservers
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Graf is a security-first private messenger built on the open Matrix protocol. - Username sign-up, no phone number required - End-to-end encrypted 1:1 chats (you hold the keys) - Biometric app lock and screenshot protection - Block and report tools; zero tolerance for abuse - Talk to anyone on Graf or any Matrix homeserver Private by default. We can't read your messages.
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Verdict
The clearest difference is review sentiment: Graf Chat at 100% against CloudVeil Messenger's 33%. Graf Chat also leads on rating (5.0 vs 3.4) and update cadence (every 2 days vs every 2 months). CloudVeil Messenger's advantage is ratings volume (165 vs 3) and device support (3 vs 1). On price, ads, in-app purchases and monetization model there is nothing between them.
Scored on Price · Rating · Positive reviews · Number of ratings · Update frequency · Ads · In-app purchases · Monetization · Best chart rank · Devices · Requires iOS
Both are free to download. Neither carries in-app purchases, so what you see is what you pay.
Graf Chat holds the better App Store score, 5.0 against 3.4. That said, the two scores are not equally well evidenced: CloudVeil Messenger has 165 ratings behind it against 3, so its average is the more settled of the two. Written reviews point the same way: 33% of CloudVeil Messenger's written reviews are positive against 100% of Graf Chat's.
CloudVeil Messenger ships an update every 2 months, Graf Chat every 2 days. The most recent releases landed on September 15, 2026 and September 18, 2026 respectively.
| Parameter | CloudVeil Messenger | Graf Chat |
|---|---|---|
| Price | Free | Free |
| Rating | 3.4 (165 ratings) | 5.0 (3 ratings) — better |
| Positive reviews | 33.3% of reviews | 100.0% of reviews — better |
| Number of ratings | 165 — better | 3 |
| Update frequency | Every 2 months | Every 2 days — better |
| Ads | No | No |
| In-app purchases | No | No |
| Monetization | Free | Free |
| Devices | iPhone, iPad, iPod — better | iPhone |
| Requires iOS | 12.0 — better | 17.0 |
| Further details — not scored | ||
| Size | 167 MB | 154 MB |
| Age rating | 4+ | 17+ |
| Developer | Cloud Veil | Venture Deals, Co. |
Customer experience
CloudVeil Messenger
Graf Chat
Bugs and requests
CloudVeil Messenger
Reported bugs
52 issues- Crashes very frequently
- Makes phone super hot
- Drains battery
- App has frozen
- Extremely buggy
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- Music constantly kicks out
- Chats never wanna load
- App is blocked
- App freezes up
- Fails to send and deliver messages
- Takes a long time to load
- Randomly crashes
- Stupid app to setup
- Calls don't work properly
- Crashes regularly
- Can't see more than two profile pics
- Normal calls are glitchy
- Groups don't open
- Can't use it
- Poorly maintained
- Full of tech bugs
- Заблокировали меня (blocked me)
- Latest update is nothing but trash
- App crashes frequently
- Freezes up
- Very slow
- Not a cool app
- Difficult to use
- Notifications don't work
- Keeps freezing up
- So slow at times
- Junk, always freezes up
- Not loading page 'Add two Accounts'
- Wow, do we need another messaging app?
- Stickers removal question
- Badge on app icon won't update
- iOS users, latest update is nothing but trash
- App fails
- Notifications come late or never
- Can't view own profiles
- Group chats don't work
- New update switched back to seeing only 2 profiles
- Doesn't show when you get a story
- App disappeared from phone
- Needs someone else's number to setup
- Keeps saying 'Updating' 'Connecting'
- New update switched back to seeing only 2 profiles
- Doesn't show when you get a story
- My teens simply disable features I blocked
- Sent code to other device, never received
- Waiting for access confirmation code
- I'm blocked from my own channel
Requested features
9 requests- Add password to settings
- Add passcode to Cloudveil settings
- Add the latest Telegram updates ASAP
- Schedule a message
- Send silent messages
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- Remove stickers from settings
- Make blue ribbon optional color or white
- Remove all profile pics
- Make it as basic as possible: voice, txt, file sharing
Graf Chat
Not enough reviews yet to summarise bugs or requests.
In-app purchases
CloudVeil Messenger
No in-app purchases
Graf Chat
No in-app purchases
Questions
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