Comparison

Smoke vs Obliv

Price, ratings, monetisation and update history for both apps, side by side β€” with what reviewers say about each.

Head to head
About

Smoke

Features
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Your messages deserve better. Smoke is a privacy-first messaging app where your conversations stay privateβ€”even from us. End-to-End Encrypted All text messages are encrypted on your device before they're sent. Only you and your recipient can read them. We can't decrypt them. Nobody can. Messages That Disappear Every message automatically vanishes after 48 hours. No endless chat history. No digital footprint. Just conversations that fade away like smoke. No Email. No Phone Number. No Tracking. Create your account with just a username. We don't collect your email, phone number, or personal information. Your identity is yours alone. - Send disappearing text messages - Share photos and videos that expire - Get notified when someone takes a screenshot - See when friends are viewing your messages Friends Only Add friends by username, QR code, or friend request. No spam. No strangers. Just people you choose. Built for Privacy - Screenshot detection alerts - Keys stored securely in your device's keychain - Messages blur after viewing - No ads. No data mining. No surveillance. Ephemeral by Design Everything disappears. Messages, photos, videosβ€”all gone within 48 hours. Have real conversations without the permanent record. Why Smoke? Because your private conversations shouldn't be stored forever in some company's database. Because you shouldn't need to hand over your phone number to send a message. Because privacy should be the default, not a premium feature. Smoke uses military-grade encryption (Curve25519-XSalsa20-Poly1305) to protect your messages. Your private keys never leave your device. We built Smoke because we believe privacy is a right, not a luxury. Perfect for: - Private conversations with friends - Sharing moments that don't need to last forever - Anyone who values digital privacy - People tired of being tracked and monitored Download Smoke and take back your privacy. --- Privacy Policy: http://chiseltheory.com/smokeprivacy.html Support: support@chiseltheory.com Β© 2025 Chisel Theory LLC. Your messages, your privacy, your choice.

About

Obliv

Features
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Obliv is a messenger for people who want their conversations to actually disappear. No phone number. No email. No backups. No recovery. Just a six-digit PIN you memorise, and messages that vanish from our servers the moment your device acknowledges them. End-to-end encrypted on your device before anything leaves it. The server is zero-knowledge β€” it cannot read, index, or recover what you send. Features β€’ Text, photo, video, voice notes, and files β€’ Encrypted audio and video calls with native iOS call integration β€’ Private group chats with automatic key rotation when membership changes β€’ Contact exchange by QR code or short ID β€” no directory, no lookups, no phone book β€’ Panic wipe after repeated wrong PIN attempts. No recovery. No exceptions. β€’ Screenshot and screen-recording protection on sensitive screens β€’ No analytics. No crash reporting. No advertising. No third-party tracking. β€’ PIN-only unlock. No biometrics. No device-key storage. Threat model Obliv is designed for people who expect their devices to be seized, inspected, or lost. Your identity lives on-device, encrypted with a key derived from your PIN using a slow, brute-force-resistant function. Biometrics are deliberately unsupported β€” no one can unlock Obliv by holding your phone up to your face. If you forget your PIN, the identity is gone. This is the point. What we store On our servers: public keys so peers can find you, transient encrypted envelopes that are deleted the moment your device acknowledges them, and opaque push tokens for wake-up notifications. Nothing else. No message content, no contact lists, no conversation history, no behavioural data. Limitations Obliv is intentionally single-device. Multi-device support widens the attack surface and is not supported. If you reset your phone or reinstall Obliv, you start over. Obliv is independent. Not affiliated with Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp, or any other messenger.

Screenshots

Smoke3 screens
Obliv4 screens

Verdict

The call

The clearest difference is iOS requirement: Obliv at 16.0 against Smoke's 18.5. On price, ads, in-app purchases and device support there is nothing between them.

Scored on Price Β· Rating Β· Positive reviews Β· Number of ratings Β· Update frequency Β· Ads Β· In-app purchases Β· Monetization Β· Best chart rank Β· Devices Β· Requires iOS

CostPrice Β· In-app purchases Β· Ads Β· Monetization

Both are free to download. Neither carries in-app purchases, so what you see is what you pay.

Scorecard1 real difference Β· 5 level
Smoke versus Obliv: the parameters behind the verdict, then further details
ParameterSmokeObliv
PriceFreeFree
Update frequencyβ€”Every 3 weeks
AdsNoNo
In-app purchasesNoNo
DevicesiPhone, iPad β€” betteriPhone
Requires iOS18.516.0 β€” better
Further details β€” not scored
Size18 MB26 MB
Age rating4+4+
DeveloperChisel Theory LLCOkidooki AG

In-app purchases

None

Smoke

No in-app purchases

None

Obliv

No in-app purchases

Questions

Is Smoke free?
Smoke is free to download, with no in-app purchases.
Is Obliv free?
Obliv is free to download, with no in-app purchases.
Do Smoke or Obliv have ads?
Neither Smoke nor Obliv shows ads.

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