Comparison

Papachat vs Cipher

Price, ratings, monetisation and update history for both apps, side by side โ€” with what reviewers say about each.

Head to head
About

Papachat

Features
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PapaChat is a private messaging app for closed communities. Create or join a community, chat with members in groups or direct messages, and manage everything with a clean, distraction-free interface. COMMUNITIES - Create a community for your family, team, or group - Invite members with shareable invite codes (24-hour expiry) - Search and request to join existing communities - Admin tools: approve/reject join requests, remove members, create groups - Leave a community anytime โ€” admin role auto-transfers to the next member GROUP & DIRECT MESSAGING - Real-time group chat โ€” every community gets a General group automatically - Direct messages โ€” tap any member in the People directory to start a private conversation - Read receipts โ€” double blue checkmarks when your message is read - Message reactions โ€” long-press to react with emoji - Reply to messages โ€” swipe to quote and respond - Delete your own messages โ€” a placeholder preserves conversation context - Archive chats to tidy up without losing history ADMIN & MODERATION - Delete any message in your community - Mute disruptive members (timed or indefinite) - Transfer or share admin role with co-admins - Require approval for group joins - Audit log tracks all moderation actions - Export conversations as PDF for evidence or records PEOPLE DIRECTORY - See all community members at a glance - Admin badges show who manages the community - Search by name or @username - Tap to start a direct conversation PRIVACY BY DESIGN - Sign in with Apple โ€” no phone number or email required - No access to your contacts, location, or files - No ads, no tracking, no data selling - Server-side security rules enforce access control - All data encrypted in transit BUILT FOR SIMPLICITY PapaChat keeps messaging simple. No stories, no reels, no marketplace โ€” just communities and conversations.

About

Cipher

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When the other person is on your Wi-Fi, nothing passes through a relay. No phone number. No email. No account. And the things this app cannot protect you from are written down inside it. NO SERVER, BY DEFAULT Cipher tries two transports in order. On the same network it connects over Bonjour, using no infrastructure at all. Only when that is unavailable does it fall back to a relay you chose yourself - and relays are off by default. The transport in use is shown at the top of the screen, and each message carries its own mark: this one arrived over the LAN, this one went through a relay. DRAKE/1 The cryptography is not homemade. X25519, Ed25519, ChaCha20-Poly1305, HKDF-SHA512 and ML-KEM-768 - widely reviewed standards, nothing else. What is ours is how they are assembled. - Keys ratchet forward on every message, so a leaked key cannot open the past - Headers are encrypted too: the message index and key rotations are invisible from outside - Every message is padded up to one of a fixed set of sizes, so the exact length never travels - The routing tag handed to a relay changes hourly, so you cannot be followed across time - Between devices on iOS 26 or later, ML-KEM-768 post-quantum key exchange runs alongside WHAT IT DOES - One-to-one text, with replies, quotes, edits, reactions and search - Disappearing messages, from send or from open, 10 seconds to 4 weeks - Safety-number verification: 60 digits, or scan the QR to compare automatically - Multiple accounts and disposable IDs - Biometric lock, decoy vault, wipe PIN - Encrypted backup and restore, CSV/JSON export - Settings you can actually change, down to the last detail WHAT WE ADMIT A product that sells safety and then overstates it is itself a danger. Settings > What this cannot protect lists the limits in plain language: if the device itself is compromised, if the first key exchange was tampered with, if the person you are talking to copies the contents out, or if you need your IP address hidden - none of those are within reach of this app. PRICING Everything cryptographic is in the free version. Padding, header encryption, key ratcheting, safety-number verification, disappearing messages, blocking - none of it is limited. We do not hold safety hostage. Cipher Pro adds convenience: 14-day relay retention, unlimited disposable IDs, cover traffic. The annual plan includes 7 days free. Terms: https://revot.jp/apps/cipher/terms.html Privacy: https://revot.jp/apps/cipher/privacy.html Terms of Use (EULA): https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/dev/stdeula/

Screenshots

Papachat4 screens
Cipher4 screens

Verdict

The call

The clearest difference is in-app purchases: Papachat at none against Cipher's 4. Cipher's advantage is iOS requirement (17.0 vs 26.2). On price, ads and device support there is nothing between them.

Scored on Price ยท Rating ยท Positive reviews ยท Number of ratings ยท Update frequency ยท Ads ยท In-app purchases ยท Monetization ยท Best chart rank ยท Devices ยท Requires iOS

CostPrice ยท In-app purchases ยท Ads ยท Monetization

Both are free to download. Cipher sells 4 in-app purchases, starting at $3.99 per 7 days. Papachat asks for nothing beyond the download.

Scorecard2 real differences ยท 4 level
Papachat versus Cipher: the parameters behind the verdict, then further details
ParameterPapachatCipher
PriceFreeFree
Update frequencyMonthlyโ€”
AdsNoNo
In-app purchasesNo โ€” betterYes
DevicesiPhone, iPadiPhone, iPad
Requires iOS26.217.0 โ€” better
Further details โ€” not scored
Size40 MB3 MB
Age rating12+4+
DeveloperRaphael MolineREVOT, K.K.

In-app purchases

None

Papachat

No in-app purchases

4 purchases

Cipher

Subscriptions3
  • Cipher Pro ้€ฑ้ก$3.997 Days
  • Cipher Pro ๆœˆ้ก$6.991 Month
  • Cipher Pro ๅนด้ก7 Days trial$39.991 Year
One-time1
  • Cipher Pro ่ฒทใ„ๅˆ‡ใ‚Š$69.99

Questions

Is Papachat free?
Papachat is free to download, with no in-app purchases.
Is Cipher free?
Cipher is free to download, with in-app purchases available.
Do Papachat or Cipher have ads?
Neither Papachat nor Cipher shows ads.

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