Self vs 4 More
Price, ratings, monetisation and update history for both apps, side by side — with what reviewers say about each.
Self
Access a comprehensive library of over 125 guided audio sessions focused on personal development. Improve areas like stress management, weight loss, self-esteem, career success, and relationships through daily listening.
- 125+ Self-Talk sessions
- Stress management audio
- Weight-loss sessions
- Self-esteem improvement
- Career and business success
- Relationship guidance
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This all-new, upgraded app is the source for all of Shad Helmstetter’s complete library of 125+ Self-Talk sessions—from stress, weight-loss and self-esteem, to career and business-building, success, relationships, and more. Listening to Self-Talk for 15 minutes a day can change your life. Choose any Self-Talk subject and start listening.
4 More
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Verdict
The clearest difference is in-app purchases: 4 More at none against Self's 1. Self's advantage is update cadence (weekly vs every 3 months). On price, ads, device support and iOS requirement there is nothing between them.
Scored on Price · Rating · Positive reviews · Number of ratings · Update frequency · Ads · In-app purchases · Monetization · Best chart rank · Devices · Requires iOS
Both are free to download. Self sells 1 one-off in-app purchase. 4 More asks for nothing beyond the download.
Self ships an update weekly, 4 More every 3 months. The most recent releases landed on September 28, 2026 and September 27, 2026 respectively.
| Parameter | Self | 4 More |
|---|---|---|
| Price | Free | Free |
| Rating | 4.1 (258 ratings) — better | — |
| Positive reviews | 56.8% of reviews | — |
| Number of ratings | 258 — better | — |
| Update frequency | Weekly — better | Every 3 months |
| Ads | No | No |
| In-app purchases | Yes | No — better |
| Monetization | Free with in-app purchases | — |
| Devices | iPhone, iPad, iPod | iPhone, iPad, iPod |
| Requires iOS | 15.1 | 15.1 |
| Further details — not scored | ||
| Size | 49 MB | 188 MB |
| Age rating | 4+ | 4+ |
| Developer | Self-Talk+ | Fashion Republic LLC |
Bugs and requests
Self
Reported bugs
3 issues- App crashes or freezes on launch
- Unable to log in or access account
- Subscription issues with billing and cancellation
Requested features
3 requests- Add voice/speaker options
- Implement progress tracking and analytics
- Improve user experience and app stability
4 More
Not enough reviews yet to summarise bugs or requests.
In-app purchases
Self
- Self-Talk 30-Day Access$19.99
4 More
No in-app purchases
