Excellent Port
I’ve been developing a traditional roguelike for several years now, and Brogue has always been my biggest source of inspiration. The changes with SE have really made the game that much better as well.
I have some questions and suggestions for you:
Can the dpad be moved? I see an option to restore its default position but can’t figure out how to move it.
When throwing an item for the first time, the cursor snaps to the nearest target, and seems to require a second tap on the target to confirm the action. It can be tricky to successfully tap the same tile twice, especially on iPhone. Can a confirm button be added near the cancel button for this instead?
When navigating menus, can the dpad be used to scroll through the menu (mostly for inventory navigation). Center tap could be used to select or confirm the current cursor position.
Any plans to include the rapid variants of brogue?
Finally, a suggestion from my own experience. I’ve found that using short swipe gestures for movement control is vastly more comfortable and accurate than dpad or tap to move on smaller screens. ‘Baba Is You’ also uses this control scheme for tile based movement.
Also, the app page links to a 404 GitHub page. Otherwise I would add these as suggestions if they are being accepted.
I have some questions and suggestions for you:
Can the dpad be moved? I see an option to restore its default position but can’t figure out how to move it.
When throwing an item for the first time, the cursor snaps to the nearest target, and seems to require a second tap on the target to confirm the action. It can be tricky to successfully tap the same tile twice, especially on iPhone. Can a confirm button be added near the cancel button for this instead?
When navigating menus, can the dpad be used to scroll through the menu (mostly for inventory navigation). Center tap could be used to select or confirm the current cursor position.
Any plans to include the rapid variants of brogue?
Finally, a suggestion from my own experience. I’ve found that using short swipe gestures for movement control is vastly more comfortable and accurate than dpad or tap to move on smaller screens. ‘Baba Is You’ also uses this control scheme for tile based movement.
Also, the app page links to a 404 GitHub page. Otherwise I would add these as suggestions if they are being accepted.
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Response from developer
Great suggestions. Thank you. I’ll work them in for the next release. The d-pad can be moved using a two finger gesture, I’ll clarify that too. Thanks again!
I like this game, but
The text is too hard to read; I hope you can support larger font size adjustments. Thank you very much.
Response from developer
Recent updates as of 1.7.6 have enlarged the text. There is also a way to make it bigger in the options. If it's not enough or you have other suggestions please let me know through the support link under the 'Information' button. Thanks!
Best Roguelike Ever
This is the best entry level into the classic roguelike genre. Huge props to the maintainer of this app version for being faithful to the original while providing touch screen support and a fun new variant!
97% Superb!
First off: download it, play it, try it/die it, until you reach at least depth 5; by then you should know if you are hooked and love it forever, or nope it away because you can’t appreciate a game of gorgeous simplicity. Brogue was great, Brogue CE was tuned better, Brogue SE starts a path of addressing some of the stale issues that I didn’t imagine could be carved away at in these ways. Bravo! I’ve not yet played enough rounds to have clear feedback to give, to help sort out the balancing and issues. But seems like the developer is hot on the trail of the most troubling iOS interface things. Thank you kindly, it makes focusing on the nuanced gameplay evolution you’re noodling with, much easier.
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Impressive
Love the ascii style graphics. Great to have this classic on iPhone
Its great
With this game, less is more. It relys on the players active imagination, which is exactly what D&D is all about. Having been a long fan of Moria (I was lloking for moria when I found this) I think this game play is better. Unlike moria, this game is all about 'building' a character, which depends on what you find and what you choose (a specialisation). Many players will choose a variety of skills, but I prefer to specialise.
It is this random chance of what is made available by the game which seperates it from others (plus the colour visuals which is a major step forward from the originals). You don't realise until you die a few times 'how enjoyable it is to start again from scratch' since no two games play the same. Every character you play is different based on what you find and choose to keep. The replayability factor is amazing. I realise why it is better than Moria now. In Moria you could leave the maze and buy items in a store (something I missed at first), but here you buy nothing. Everything you have is provided in the game randomly, which makes different choices inevitable. In Moria thirty years ago, I probably tended to start over and buy the same things again, and therefore played the same game over and over without realising it, even though it was still enjoyablr to do so.
I realise after thirty years that these games are really problem-solving puzzle games. How to defeat a level and a foes and survive. The game rewards you for killing most creatures but you rapidly learn that you will be punished for killing others. Some you are best to avoid and run from. Knowing which is which is part of the fun. Can recommend this game. It is truly a game where the more you put in, the more you get out of it. Its not for people who want instant gratification. Its definitely a mind-game - a true strategy game where visuals are not as important.
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It is this random chance of what is made available by the game which seperates it from others (plus the colour visuals which is a major step forward from the originals). You don't realise until you die a few times 'how enjoyable it is to start again from scratch' since no two games play the same. Every character you play is different based on what you find and choose to keep. The replayability factor is amazing. I realise why it is better than Moria now. In Moria you could leave the maze and buy items in a store (something I missed at first), but here you buy nothing. Everything you have is provided in the game randomly, which makes different choices inevitable. In Moria thirty years ago, I probably tended to start over and buy the same things again, and therefore played the same game over and over without realising it, even though it was still enjoyablr to do so.
I realise after thirty years that these games are really problem-solving puzzle games. How to defeat a level and a foes and survive. The game rewards you for killing most creatures but you rapidly learn that you will be punished for killing others. Some you are best to avoid and run from. Knowing which is which is part of the fun. Can recommend this game. It is truly a game where the more you put in, the more you get out of it. Its not for people who want instant gratification. Its definitely a mind-game - a true strategy game where visuals are not as important.
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Brogue, one of the elderitch gods of terminal descends upon IOS
This is a great port of an amazing game. Unfortunately, the iOS d-pad disappears whenever I fall down a level
Most In-depth roguelike I’ve played
I’m not gonna say anything anyone else hasn’t already said, so I won’t. My only complaint is that the “suspend game” feature currently doesn’t work, so fixing that would pretty much make the game perfect in my mind.
Great game. I will change to 5 stars if iPhone version is released.
Please release for iPhone!
Yeet
The game concept is very interesting, however, i have found out that the bluetooth keyboard controls aren’t working anymore. This was a big part of why i enjoyed this game, the keyboard support. Please fix this
Seriously Underlooked
A great turn-based roguelike. If you’ve played games like Shattered Planet or Cardinal Quest 2 you will like this.
+ Large variety of enemies and items, each with unique abilities.
+ A lot of strategy involved. You need to think carefully before making certain moves or entering areas, or else you risk getting into a bad situation, or wasting a helpful scroll.
+ Good mechanics, from the most accurate ways to throw a dart to the stealth system.
+ Nice visuals. Brogue does not have any fancy sprites and uses characters on a keyboard to represent everything in the game, but they do a good job with the @‘s vision, water, everything. It’s very easy to forget you are just moving around letters and numbers.
+ It’s free. And that’s a great price!
- Because of the small tiles it can sometimes be hard to throw a projectile or spell exactly where you want to, but it’s a very small nuisance.
+ Large variety of enemies and items, each with unique abilities.
+ A lot of strategy involved. You need to think carefully before making certain moves or entering areas, or else you risk getting into a bad situation, or wasting a helpful scroll.
+ Good mechanics, from the most accurate ways to throw a dart to the stealth system.
+ Nice visuals. Brogue does not have any fancy sprites and uses characters on a keyboard to represent everything in the game, but they do a good job with the @‘s vision, water, everything. It’s very easy to forget you are just moving around letters and numbers.
+ It’s free. And that’s a great price!
- Because of the small tiles it can sometimes be hard to throw a projectile or spell exactly where you want to, but it’s a very small nuisance.
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Needs Oryx’s tiles
I really want to play, but I’m used to using Oryx’s tiles on the desktop version and can’t go back. Add the tiles version to make it more accessible for everyone and it will be perfect.
fun, very well adapted to ipad
works perfectly even without keyboard. thanks!
Latest version issues...
I absolutely love this game, but the newest version seem to crash a lot... I used to be able to play just fine, but now the game sometimes crashes when I open my inventory or when a bloat bursts or whatever. I wish I could go back to the previous working version for me.
Great port!
I love this port, but have noticed that in the last release (or maybe the one before) it doesn’t play nice with my Logitech Bluetooth keyboard - the keyboard’s arrow keys all result in a up-right diagonal move, and the shift key doesn’t register (i.e. can’t do a “D” on the keyboard to see what was already discovered). Fixable?
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Great
A well made game which is very smooth, and makes you want to play more
Keyboard directional input is not working correctly anymore however
Keyboard directional input is not working correctly anymore however
Must have
Edit: since the latest update I have been unable to throw items which rendered the game unplayable.
*****
At the first glance, this game doesn't seem like much but oh boy don't judge the book by cover here! This game is a lot of fun and extremely addictive. A must-have for dungeon crawl fans. My biggest complaint is sometimes it doesn't delete a game when I die so whenever I go to "open game" it's listed but doesn't load when I click on it. I'd like to be able to delete those games. Despite this, I'm giving the game full 5 stars cuz it's so awesome!
*****
At the first glance, this game doesn't seem like much but oh boy don't judge the book by cover here! This game is a lot of fun and extremely addictive. A must-have for dungeon crawl fans. My biggest complaint is sometimes it doesn't delete a game when I die so whenever I go to "open game" it's listed but doesn't load when I click on it. I'd like to be able to delete those games. Despite this, I'm giving the game full 5 stars cuz it's so awesome!
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Response from developer
Sorry about that. An update should be available shortly (1.3.3) that fixes this issue. In the interim double tapping the throw button works consistently. Thanks for playing and reviewing!
You need to just play this!
This is it. Why else are there so many people raving on and on about a game that seems so boring when you look at the screenshots? That's a good question. Because they've likely been playing this game loyally for years...and will continue to do so. Like me. So if you want to explore an antiquated, turn-based, emotionally fraught, chess-like, engaging, perfectly beautiful, endlessly confounding, old-school / new-school, refreshingly exciting....yeah, enough said.... I can say nothing more to change your mind.
You're either gonna download, or you won't.
God help you and yours....
You're either gonna download, or you won't.
God help you and yours....
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Awesome, but lost the Bluetooth keyboard arrow keys
Love the game, been doing infinite varieties of gameplay for over a year now! Unfortunately, latest update seems to have dropped support for my Logitech Bluetooth arrow keys. Can you add ability to choose your keys for directions? Only other minor quibble is the font seems to have gotten much smaller for certain items (weapons and scrolls).
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Please update to 1.7.5
New brogue is out please could you update this port?
