Bom
RPE for runs is way off
What is this?
I have the plan, did my first two workouts. Workout 1 as scheduled and required. But no clue how Join assesses that workout. I have some numbers. Nothing else.
Workout 2, I needed to shorten. No way to change the workout prior. No clue or clear view on if that negatively affected the training from Joins perspective?
Workout 3: I would need to reschedule as i am traveling.
THERE IS NO WAY TO RESCHEDULE BY DESIGN WITH JOIN.
How can you look at that and think to yourself: „Yep, that looks about right!“?
17€ down the drain for this rubbish.
I think everybody is better advised with TrainerRoad or TrainingPeak. Heck, make your own training plan and you are better off.
Man. I seldomly write something about Apps. But Join really stirred the pot here.
Response from developer
Hi Feldrin Thank you for the honest feedback, we are sorry JOIN has not lived up to expectations so far. A few quick clarifications that may help: On workout assessment, submitting your RPE after each session is how JOIN evaluates your effort and adapts your plan going forward. The more feedback you give it the smarter it gets. On shortening a workout, simply edit your availability for that day to reflect the time you have available and JOIN will automatically shorten the session to fit. On rescheduling, the shuffle button on any planned session lets you swap it for a different workout that fits your day better. It is not drag and drop but it does give you flexibility within the plan. We are sorry the sign up process was not clear enough regarding our trial period. We would like to offer you subscription extension so you can experience JOIN properly without any pressure. Please reach out to us directly at support@join.cc and we will get that set up for you right away. Kind regards, JOIN Support
Gutes Konzept mit Potenzial in der Umsetzung
Auch die Ansteuerung des Rollentrainers ist hier integriert, sehr schön und simpel zu bedienen.
Auf der Straße ist die Leistungsvorgabe allerdings mit +/-10 Watt doch sehr eng, da wird scheinbar auch nichts geglättet oder so. Im Ergebnis interpretiert JOIN dann die Einheiten nur mit mäßiger Umsetzung und sucht scheinbar leichtere Sessions aus, obwohl es nicht nötig ist.
Dass einige elementare Funktionen nicht aufrufbar sind, ist auch etwas irritierend:
Die in der App immer wieder beworbene Feedback-Funktion zum aktuellen körperlichen Befinden lässt sich nicht aufrufen.
Auch fehlt bei Lauftrainingseinheiten der Button „Training starten“. Man kann sich zwar nach dem Programm orientieren, aber die App trackt die Session natürlich dann nicht mit.
Insgesamt ist mir die Umsetzung zu unausgereift für den Preis, da bezahle ich lieber etwas mehr Geld für eine besser funktionierende Lösung.
Response from developer
Hi Dimö Thank you for the detailed feedback, we really appreciate it! Great to hear you are enjoying the adaptive approach and the trainer control integration. On outdoor power targets, the narrow tolerance is indeed harder to hit outdoors where wind, terrain and traffic naturally cause power to fluctuate. JOIN will look at the average power and the zone, it will not be strict if a zone is slightly missed but will adapt where needed. On the Readiness feature, this has been resolved in a recent update and should now be accessible regardless of pending workout feedback. On the missing start button for running sessions, JOIN currently only has a workout player for cycling. For running sessions you can follow the plan as a guide and log the session manually afterwards with your time and RPE. If you have any further questions please reach out to us at support@join.cc and we will be happy to help. Kind regards, JOIN Support
